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 Post subject: Re: Hatchmans 1600 Build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:38 am 
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Took the Datto into work the other day, below is a vid of her in the basement carpark - gotta love the noise of this car in basements and tunnels!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8NWQlIePs

Gave a few guys a ride and the little L20B just pulled like a freight train with the car fully loaded like it was no trouble at all. This L20B is a strong little engine with the dual Weber carbs

But to be honest the ride home in warm weather was bloody terrible. Bumper-to-bumper traffic for literally an hour and 20 minutes was uncomfortable as hell with no air-con. Nerve wracking too with one eye permanently fixed on the temperature and oil pressure gauge. Shattered my nostalgia of driving around in Datsuns on my P-Plates in the summertime! Modern cars really do make you quickly forget how much better they are in terms of comfort than old cars.

Still massive ups to the PWR radiator, SPAL fan and Craig-Davies water pump. When I got her home I left the ignition on and she cooled down in literally 2 minutes in the garage. I would never restore an old car without installing a modern cooling system for the engine.

Lesson learned from this experience is I'll ever be making this car a daily driver!


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 Post subject: Re: Hatchmans 1600 Build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 am 
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cool car! i havent gone right through the thread, but im curious, why the engineers?

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 Post subject: Re: Hatchmans 1600 Build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:53 am 
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LAG_510 wrote:
cool car! i havent gone right through the thread, but im curious, why the engineers?


New rules for H and M plates that came into effect about 18 months ago. If you modify a car beyond what was a factory option then it must be subjected to a VASS report which requires an engineer from VicRoads to assess the vehicle.

In our case the L20B and a 5 speed gearbox meant it had to get an engineers report.

It's a good idea I think, it stops idiots putting stupidly powerful engines in old cars disguised as H plated vehicles and forces them to have an independent umpire in VicRoads assess the vehicle rather than your mechanic just RWC'ing it.

The other reason is it brings Victoria inline with other states. If you took an SR20 powered Datto interstate to NSW under H plates the cops could, if they wanted to, take your car off the road and demand it be M plated - if they knew what they were looking at of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Hatchmans 1600 Build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 am 
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Fair enough, your diligence is impressive! wouldnt be too many M plated L bangers getting around. Did you find the engineer easy to deal with? Back in the day i used the infamous (relaxed) sunjay but i dont think hes around any more. I want to play around with my 1000 wagon and might 'need' an engineers cert.

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 Post subject: Re: Hatchmans 1600 Build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:17 pm 
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LAG_510 wrote:
Fair enough, your diligence is impressive! wouldnt be too many M plated L bangers getting around. Did you find the engineer easy to deal with? Back in the day i used the infamous (relaxed) sunjay but i dont think hes around any more. I want to play around with my 1000 wagon and might 'need' an engineers cert.


I got my mechanic (Frank who runs APS in Frankston) to handle this side of it. Apparently the VASS guy is a bit troublesome to deal with as all the shops in Frankston and the Mornington Peninsula have to book him a few weeks in advance as he is so busy. This means the shops have to ensure all the cars needing inspection are ready and if there is anything wrong you won't get your cert and any arguments to the contrary are not entertained!

My only drama was the VASS guy used the number on the compliance plate fixed to the firewall for the certificate, my mechanic however used the number stamped on the chassis - which is actually correct according to the current rules, you have to use the number stamped on the body as compliance plates are easily swapped around. When I presented this to VicRoads they said bizarrely said go back and get the RWC redone with the number on the VASS!!! I didn't argue this point though and just got it done so I could get the plates, VicRoads people in Seaford seem to have NFI about the rules either so I just worked within the parameters I was dealt with to get it done!!

Long story short, if you're gonna do an engine swap in your 1000 you're gonna need a VASS cert if you want club plates that is for sure


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:45 am 
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After obtaining an engineers and RWC as a 2.0 on my car 5 years ago, and then fronting up to the RTA with all required documents. I was told that I would have to x stamp all my original numbers. Bullshit! I told them. After arguing with them for around half an hour, the RTA officer decided that she would contact the ombudsman for authority and clarification in order to pass my car. She was asked if it was a Datsun 510 and after confirming that it was. She was promptly told that the numbers were not to be altered as it is a historical vehicle.


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