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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:01 pm 
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I got 200b struts and S13W calipers.
I fitted the caliper to the strut and it fits ok. When i measured the radius from the outermost point of the pad to the centre of the stub axle i got about 132mm, ie approx 264mm diameter.
I cant see any way DBA 425 (276mm dia.) rotors will fit....maybe because the struts were not originally fitted with girlock calipers??
Has any one else had this issue and knows an answer? I Have considered ordering DBA 411 (256mm dia.), or a DBA 221 (266mm dia.) but don't want to do so untill im sure it will all fit.

Any help much appreciated :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:42 am 
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one80bee wrote:
I got 200b struts and S13W calipers.
I fitted the caliper to the strut and it fits ok. When I measured the radius from the outermost point of the pad to the centre of the stub axle I got about 132mm, ie approx 264mm diameter.
I cant see any way DBA 425 (276mm dia.) rotors will fit....maybe because the struts were not originally fitted with girlock calipers??
Has any one else had this issue and knows an answer? I Have considered ordering DBA 411 (256mm dia.), or a DBA 221 (266mm dia.) but don't want to do so untill im sure it will all fit.

Any help much appreciated :thumbsup:


Well the only one thing I can think of is if the struts had a 253mm disk??? I ask because like the 240K struts that are used for this same setup, it would have to have the mounting ears on the strut further out so that the caliper is placed away from the stub, this would then let the caliper fit over a large disc, IMO from what I have looked up on the DBA catalouge the Girlock struts have a 244mm disc and the Local + Import struts had 255mm. In your situation it sounds like the caliper mounts closer to the centre of the stub hence why a 276mm rotor will not let the caliper reach the mounting ears and bolt up.

I spoke to Baz about this recently and he says that the 240K and 200B struts are the same meaning that the above shouldn't be an issue but that the only difference is on the hubs which have different offsets, they range from 10-15mm meaning the 200B hubs would not centre the disc onto the calipers.

maybe try a strut off a 200B with 253mm discs or measure from the centre of the stub to both mounting ears and see if there is any difference???

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Below is a snap shot of the catalouge indicating the different disc sizes, you will also notice that the 4dr 240K has the 253mm disc and then the Z cars have 271 hence why it is so eazy to perform the same conversion but with a hilux caliper but solid disc type.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:00 pm 
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Just throwing some information into this thread as I have just done some stuffing around for my old mans car.

His car was running the S12+8 calipers, but the pistons were seized. Rather than putting in 20 hours of labour to get the pistons out and replaced. I found these replacement chinese ones on ebay;

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Front-Dis ... 2021385581

$142 bucks delivered for a pair!

Description;

Quote:
2 Front Disc Brake Caliper Assembly Hilux LN106 LN107 LN111 LN130 for Toyota 4x4 New

For Toyota Front Brake Calipers

Item num:
RBC-TA002

Features:
2 Front Wheel Set - Both sides Left & Right

Complete Brand New units ready to bolt on

Direct fit, no modifications required.

Quality: ROHS; ISO/TS16949; ISO9001:2008.

OEM Fit and Design

100% strict QC

Top quality Aftermarket part.

Suit:

For Toyota Models 4x4 both Petrol & Diesel:

Landcruiser 4x4 - 1990-2001
FJ70 FJ73 FJ75 FZJ70 FZJ75 (Does not suit models prior to 1990)
HZJ70 HZJ73 HZJ75
PZJ70 PZJ73 PZJ75 KZJ78

Hilux / Pickup
Suits models with 20mm Thick Disc Vented Rotor
LN106 LN106R LN107 LN111 LN111R - 1988-1999
LN167 LN167R LN172 LN172R - 1998-2005
RN105 RN106 RN110 RN130 - 1988-1998

4Runner / Surf
RN130 LN130 VZN130 YN130 4 RUNNER - 1989-7/1991 - does not suit 130 series models after this year with larger 25mm thickness rotor

42.85mm 2 spot Caliper (4 pistons per caliper)


Since they suited a 20mm rotor, I took a punt on them being the correct ones. They rocked up and yesterday I wasted a fair bit of time stuffing around, but here was the outcome.

- They use different pads than the S12+8 calipers. The S12+8 calipers have a smaller pad which is about half an inch either side smaller.
- They were stamped S13W, and use these pads -> db1149
- The pistons are all equal size, rather than the S12+8 having 2 x large & 2 x smaller pistons.
- The S12+8 caliper uses a banjo bolt to bolt onto the brake line, the S13W uses either a metal brake line with a double flare, or a rubber line that goes from the metal hard line on the inner guard to the caliper.

The last one was a bit of a blow to the nuts, I was going to get the surface on the caliper milled flat to suit the banjo bolt, but then located some skyline r32 rubber lines that had the male fitting for the caliper, they went straight in and appear to work.

So this is my parts list;

- 240k strut
- S13W caliper (about a 2-3mm flat washer to space the caliper over the rotor correctly
- Unfortunately don't have a rotor part code as they were existing, but it's 20mm width, and approx 274-280mm diameter, unsure of hat size.
- Nissan skyline R32 rubber brake line.

I will need to weld on a fitting on the strut to hold the middle of the rubber brake line on with a U clamp.


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